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Post-Election Thoughts, Reasons for Supporting Trump

There are still plenty of votes to be counted and lawsuits to be settled, but it’s looking like Joe Biden will emerge as the winner of an election that seems to have gone surprisingly well under the circumstances (despite many baseless accusations of fraud). Mike talks the weirdness of politicians, his pity for President Trump, anger at President Trump’s enablers, and the conservative case for supporting Donald Trump.

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The topic of this week’s podcast asked a question that’s been on my mind for months. I was reminded of an episode from the Late Show when David Letterman asked Hugh Grant, “what the hell were you thinking?” Of course I never used these exact words, but I did repeatedly ask my Republican family members, friends, and colleagues why they would whole-heartedly support and truly desire another four years of Donald Trump as President. Unfortunately, their answers left me even more confused. Thankfully, this podcast finally helped me understand WHY people voted for Donald Trump. This doesn’t mean I would have voted any different if I heard this before the election. Like many, my mind wasn’t going to change no matter what I heard. However, Michael was able to explain completely and in mere minutes what my conservative friends and family could not. I appreciated the clear and concise manner in which the information was presented. I want to be informed, but do not have enough time, emotional energy, or bourbon to get pulled into the divisiveness of politics every day, which is why I’m glad to have discovered your podcast. I look forward to your next episode.

I voted for Trump the first time, and like many, I never thought he was going to win. I just didn’t like the alternative. Now I’m happy to see him go, and having a difficult time with my brother, who is a supporter.

What I’m appreciating so much about this podcast is the willingness to at least consider what makes the other side tick. It’s easy to write off everyone who considers themselves Republicans these days. And as you pointed out, Mike, social media is only making things worse.

Right now, I don’t know where I belong. I’m not at all happy with the Republican Party, but I don’t see myself becoming a Democrat. Both sides have an image (I’ll include myself) when they think of what the other side represents. I’ve been feeling frustrated by the entire “wokeness” movement. It’s terrifying to think that this group is going to take over!

Meanwhile, Republicans come off as being self centered, and not caring about anyone else. They dislike immigrants, are racists, and basically ignorant. One thing I tried thinking about was what I would be feeling like if Trump had been elected as a Democrat! That certainly put a different perspective on things!

One thing that has helped me with critical thinking is my husband and I subscribed to The Dispatch. We both like Jonah Goldberg (definitely not a Trump supporter), and I feel as though he and his writers/podcasters have done a good job of explaining what “conservatism” means to them. It’s not what the Republican Party is currently pushing.

I’ve been a fan of Jonah Goldberg for a lot of years, and I absolutely agree that a Republican Party built around the principles he and the folks at The Dispatch promote would be a far better GOP than the one we have today. While I consider myself a Democrat, I also don’t feel entirely at home in my chosen party, which is why I decided to embark on the project of creating a party that I could wholeheartedly support. I’ve got a lot of work to do, but I’m already seeing that there’s a lot I’m taking from both the Democrats and Republicans, because I believe both parties have a lot to offer. – Mike

I feel that both sides are willfully ignorant about some things. One thing I think the left misses when they go into the “as long as I live I will never understand” aria is that many conservatives- maybe most— tolerate various things about Donald Trump because they literally don’t see them. It’s partly a difference of temperament, but I think the alternate reality created by the two medias shuts the right off from many things Trump has said, the historical and constitutional relevance of his words and acts, etc., etc.

It would be difficult to have an exclusive diet of right wing opinion-profiteer media and arrive independently at any sense that the president is anything but a guy who’s operated in good faith and been unfairly criticized.

Even many of the saner conservative voices are reluctant to really say out loud just how lousy and unqualified Trump is and was, and there’s often a tone of, sure, he’s awful, but liberals are way too melodramatic about it. There’s a level of denial there, even among some of the most perceptive conservatives.

Even if we grant for the sake of argument that both sides tell the truth, voters are drawing hugely different conclusions in part because they’re not even looking at the same data.

I think this podcast gives an excellent list of things conservatives are looking at and thinking about when they’re NOT seeing and reading the things we see and read.

Thanks. I think one of the most important things anyone interested in American politics can do is to regularly check out left and right wing media to get a sense of what information those who see the world differently from us are getting. – Mike

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